Broke? Not payday yet? No food?

this is for those that haven't bought into my method of grocery shopping,   No stock?  Almost no money?  Not payday yet?    Most of this stuff can be purchased at the dollar store.   Not necessarily the best nutrition, but it will make your tummy happy intil payday.

Buy :

1. Rice 
2. Beans
3. Top ramen 
4. Eggs 
5. Real , oatmeal
6. Chicken quarters ( usually you can find them for well under a dollar a pound. ) 

Sound be able to buy two cartons of eggs and a ten pound bag of chicken quarters.   All under twenty dollars.   Always keep flour and yeast on hand.    

Basics that will stretch your food dollar.   

Meal plans and the easiest bread. EVER

Meal plans for week of feb 20

1. meat ball subs , salad 
2. Pizza
3. Baked potato bar 
4. Tuna cassarole 
5. Speghetti w red sauce , salad , bread 
6. Chicken soup . Bread 
7. Breakfast for dinner.    

I found a easy bread recipe.    Really, it can't  get much easier or much cheaper.    .44 for TWO loaves .i did not price salt or water.    

In large bowl measure 

6 cups flour 

4 teaspoons salt 

1 teaspoon yeast

Stir with whisk.   

Add 3 cups lukewarm water ( 105 degrees) 

This will be shaggy and wet.    

Cover and sit on counter 8-24 hours.   Loose cover 

Preheat oven with Dutch oven and lid inside.   450 degrees for thirty minutes.   

Cut a piece of parchment ( DT) to fit bottom of the Dutch oven.  

CAREFULLY remove Dutch oven from the oven and drop the parchment and  1/2 of the dough into the Dutch oven,   

Return Dutch oven to  the oven and bake 30 minutes.   After 30 minutes, CAREFULLY remove lid and place where someone won't pick it up. HOT 

Bake another ten minutes or until top is browned to your liking,    

Cost .22 a loaf.   Actual working time . Maybe ten minutes.    

I would make the dough the night before kitchen prep day.   

The kitchen prep day, I would start the oven and continue to wash veggies, etc.    

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Country bread
Progresso soup
Sour cream. Cottage cheese
Green giant veggies, frozen 16 oz



Regular sale
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Gala apples, oranges .99
Mayo 3.99@99
Lettuce .99
Raghu 1.50

Friday recipe

Trying  to get on a schedule.  


Friday is supposed to be recipe day,  

White chicken enchiladas
Serves 4

1 cup diced or shredded cooked chicken
1 cup grated cheese, ( I used pizza  cheese  )
8 med sized flour tortillas

Sauce :
4 T butter
4 T  flour
2 cups chicken broth
1 cup sour cream
Diced green chilies

1. Fill the tortillas with equal amounts of chicken and 1/2 of the cheese.  Roll up and place in greased baking  pan.
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3. Make sauce .  In saucepan on stovetop, melt butter and make a roux .  Cook a few minutes.  Add chicken stock a little at a time to make a thickened sauce. Remove from heat and add sour cream and chilies.    
4. Pour over prepared enchiladas
5. Top with remaining cheese.    
6. Baka at 400 degrees for 20 minutes or until hot and cheese is melted .   

Notes:
This could be a really inexpensive meal
Chicken and chicken stock  is from the rib bones I cooked from de-boning the split breasts.  
Cheese is purchased  at two dollars a pound .   .50 (Costco)
I don't cost flour .  It is a basic pantry item.
Butter - .25 ( FM or QFC)
Sour cream - 1.00 ( FM)
Green chilies .58 (Winco)
Tortillas .75 ( dollar store)

3.08.    If you add 1/2 pound of chicken assuming you don't have "found" chicken and chicken stock made from granules.   1.00 and essentially another pantry item that is too inexpensive to count,  

Well under five dollars and you can add a side of lettuce and tomato.  

Making dinner

Stove top stuffing..97.   Apple 🍎 1.00 a pound. Pork chops 1.50 a pound, craisens ?
Stir fry last weeks veggies that are already cut up.

Brown pork chops.  Make dressing according to directions. Add choooed apple and craisens. Place stuffing in baking dish and place pork chips on top.  Cover dish and bake in 375 degree oven until the pork chops test done.   

Thursday, February 16. Bullets

1. Groceries on the cheap operates on the premise that if you spend more time planning your shopping trip and meals, and less time cooking from scratch, your budget will be better off.   Once you get ised toc it, you will find you can shop faster and sound less money and still have a stock of food and cook balanced meals quickly.    
2. Identify the foods you use to cook your meals on a regular basis,    Sort them by perishable: dairy and  produce and stroke items that have a freezer and shelf life.   
3. Set target prices for those foods that will help you maintain a budget for five dollar meals. Target has no reference to the store with the red balls.   LOL 😂 I use a dollar for produce and a average of two dollars for protein a pound.  
4. Set a limit of how much of any one stock item you will keep.   A short list will make it easy to out an emergency meal together,   
5. Find the  lowest  price you can pay for those particular items that you will stock.   In our house that would be diced tomatoes. Pasta sauce, pasta, canned green beans, some corn, chilli, A back up of condiments, some tomato lasted and small cans of sauce, some soup , rice, beans. Some top ramen, canned tuna and canned salmon. 
6. Set a matrix for your meal plans.   We use 1 beef, 1 fish or seafood, 3 Pork or chicken, and two vegetarian.   This makes meal planning a snap.   Be sure to shake things up every now and then and try a new recipe.   
7. Pick a loss leader protein each week if possible.   Buy enough of that protein to cover as many meals of that item you will use for the month.  In other words, if you eat beef once a week, I might buy enough for four meals.   When you get it home portion control it for the freezer of appropriate.  Rotate the meats,   I usually rotate ground beef, Pork loin or sausage, chicken, and use a week for  beans, cheese, or fish,    
8. Buy non perishables on your stock list when they are at a rock bottom price.    It enough to last you until the next sale or enough to keep a self imposed limit of that item.  I shoot for a larger stock when I know that our expenses are going to be high in a particular month,   I pay fifty percent of retail on most things.   Nowhere else can I make fifty percent t on my money,   We can eat from the pantry and free up extra cash.  
9. Learn to cook from scratch.   Look for recipes your family will eat and ones that are made quickly or can be made in a slow cooker or pressure cooker.   The insta pot can be used as a rice cooker, slow cooker, or pressure cooker.    It is a work horse in the kitchen.  
10. Use up bits and pieces of leftovers in your meals or for lunches.   Remember : no food is going to do you family any good if you are feeding it to the garbage disposal.   

This week is upside down,

My schedule this week is upside down.  Things happen.   Errand day was postponed to today because the tires we needed for the car weren't  in stock  yet.   Monday I had orijects that needed to be done, so a lot of kitchen management didn't happen.   I started a schedule for thenvkig,  it its messed up... best layed plans,,    Today is supposed to be an editorial. But we already talked about waste not, want not.

Monday I made hi I packets with hamburger patties, blanched veggies, steak fries .  It's an easyndinner and there is almost no clean up. Yesterday we went to a valentine party.    Today, I'll make the chicken enchaladas and rice,   I make a mix that has chicken stick and herbs in it.    I will use the chicken pieces  from the rib bones I cut from the chicken breast.   I made refrigerator bread dough yesterday.  It can wait to be cooked, it lasts up to two weeks, it just gets more like sourdough.  I also tried a new recipe for applesauce oatmeal muffins,   It was a little intricate, but manageable,  they have a crumb topping and a lot of ingredients-- all basic.    They would taste good with some craisens or raises  too.  You could cook an apple 🍎 and  smoosh it with the potato masher.   It would leave some texture,  

I'll pull pork chops to  defrost in the refrigerator.    The Pork chops are what I cut from a pork loin I got at Costco for 1.50 a pound.    I will make stove top stuffing and add cranberries and apples 🍎 and brown pork chops and finish them off in the oven.    A green veggie will finish the dinner.   Basically I try for a protein , a starch, and a vegetable-- balanced dinner.  

Trying new recipes keeps thing fresh, and eleviates boredom.   Cooking homemade food and shoooing wisely effectively makes it possible to eat healthy on a meager budget.    Looking at our meals, no one would suspect we are eating in three dollars a day.  The only thing that is remarkably different is that we don't usually eat big whole pieces of meat.   The RDA for protein is six ounces, part of which should be an egg.   We don't need to eat an eight ounce steak.   LOL.

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Pie, ice cream 2.99 each
Eggs 18 count 2/3

Milk 4/5
Cottagemcheese 2/4



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Net costs
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10/10 mix or match
Bread
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Bread

Scratch bread is one way to cut costs and give your family better, cheaper bread.  I won't say faster, but I have found recipes that do make it efficient. Most of the time, it takes ten minutes actual hands on time and the cost is close to .25 a loaf of you buy bulk flour and yeast.

1. I found a thin crust pizza recipe that takes a matter of ten minutes or less.    Total cost if you buy yeast (3.44) at Winco in bulk, and flour ( 6.00 for 25 pounds ) at Costco is .17.   
2. Refrigerator dough takes a matter of ten minutes non passive time also.   It's a matter of mixing the ingredients and putting  them in a large receptacle with a loose fitting lid.   Walk away and come back two hours or so later.   Put in fridge.   It is good for two weeks,  the longer it sits in the fridge, the more sour dough tasting it is.    When you are ready to bake bread,  cut off a hunk, shape it and let rise for 30 minutes and bake.    Artisan bread 
3. No knead bread in a loaf pan is what I made yesterday for the first time.  It takes more passive time.   You mix the dough, let stand in your oven with the light on until doubled in size,   Place the dough , deflated in  a greased loaf pan and place back in the oven for 30 minutes until it rises to the top of the pan.   Bake. Again, about eight to ten minutes work g time. 
4. Rolls are done in the kitchen aid.   They take the longest time hands on , but it's a matter of loading the ingredients in the bowl and letting the mixer do the work.  It's best done when you are doing kitchen management because you need to not leave the mixer unattended.   Shape, rise , bake.   
5. Peasant bread,   Basic ingredients .  Make dough.  Set on the counter for 12-24 hours.   Shape. Bake in Dutch  oven .  Make sure your Dutch oven is oven safe on high heat,   Check the knob of the lid. 

With the exception of the rolls, all of these recipes take only flour, salt, water , yeast , and sometimes a small amount of oil.   I use olive oil.    

2 cups of flour costs .14.  That makes most bread about a quarter a loaf.   I am not costing salt and water.   A sour dough loaf of bread cost upwards of three dollars.    Even a loaf of cheap bread is a dollar or  more.. (1.39 at Kroger) 

It's taking economy  cooking to the next level.   My goal is to get us good, mostly healthy food for under three dollars a day per person.  Not that we necessarily need to now,  it with the climate in the other Washington and talk of cutting ssa and food stamps, some people might need to make do on that.   I want to just cook and eat. Better, cheaper, faster.    It's not all beans.  LOL


Costs.  Note I did not cost teaspoons of oil or salt.   I bought a bag of salt five years ago for five dollars.   We will have enough salt to last my lifetime and probably my granddaughters too.
Oil is variable depending on what kind you use, and 2 tsp are incidental.
Pizza crust.   .17
Loaf bread .28
refrigerater dough depending on size two or three loaves - total cost .59
Peasant bread. .22

I sometimes add parm, peppercorns, garlic pepper. Rosemary. Parsley, Italian seasoning in the artisan bread.  

Vegan pizza scratch

Garlic, onion, diced tomato, black olive .
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Kitchen management day

It is supposed to be kitchen management day.which will happen, but I found a recipe tucked into a folder I had long forgotten,    It seems good enough to share,    One for times when time is short.  The best thing about foil packets is that there is no clean up, No pans,   And the kids think it's camping,  

1 lb extra lean ground beef.
1 T w sauce
Garlic pepper
Onion powder
Salt
Frozen veggies : peas, carrots, onions, mushrooms, or fresh mixture to your liking,
Frozen steak fries.


Note : if you don't want to cook in aluminum foil, you can wrap food in parchment first, and then in foil.  

1. Cut 4 pieces of foil about 18 inches by 12 inches 
2. Mix beef with w sauce, garlic pepper, salt, and onion powder to taste.   Form 4 patties, about 1/4 inch thick 
3. Place party on foil sheet. 
4. Top each with veggies and steak fries. 
5. Season veggies with garlic pepper
6. Seal packets. 
7. Bake at 450 degrees fir 35-40 minutes or until beef reads 160 degrees 

Cut x in the top of the lackey and peel back.   Be careful, it will be hot.   

Fred Meyers haul

Total 18.57

Diced tomatoes (8)
Tomato sauce (6)
3 lean cuisine lunches 3/5
Pepperoni (6 ounces)
Oranges
Sugar
Spaghetti -2 lbs
English cucumber

Waste not, want not.

Quote of the day :  NO food can do your family good if you feed it to the garbage disposal.    

Cutting waste is a good way to stretch your food dollar.    This blog will explore ways to cut waste on the kitchen,  

• Buy fresh foods in moderation.   We all need fresh veggies and fruit, but not over buying will mean you are going to eat all that you buy.
• If you have a lot of something left and it has been on the fridge too long, make an effort to use it up on a recipe,    Several cookbooks on line will let you plug in an ingredient and find recipes.    
• It used to be that our grannies saved the keels and made stick.   Now, we are hearing that the peels are where the pesticides  are. I do wash just about all the fresh I get with vinegar water.
• Leftover veggies can become soup ingredients.   
• Leftover rice can be rice pudding or filling for stuffed peppers.   
• Dry bread : bread crumbs or bread pudding,   Why pay someone two dollars a pound for their dry bread?
• Smoothies anyone ? 
• You can dehydrate apples and just about any other fruit. There is a way to do it in the oven on a low heat. 

• Leftovers make good lunches.   
• Portion controlling your meat when you get it home from the store helps.   Buy bulk, rotate your protein based on a good sale price and portion control it.   Cook it if it makes sense,   I cook ground meat, I don't cook chicken breast or pork loin.   Keeping to a select few cuts of meat can make things simpler.    I cook whole chickens  and separate it into half breasts, legs and thighs and wings, and soup bones.   Lately , I have been buying split chicken breast and de boning them and cooking the bones for loose meat and stock.    The loose meat can make a whole other meal.    You don't cook too much, but not enough for another meal .    
• Buy in bulk when the cost is really cheaper and the item won't spoil.   Salt and soda come to mind,.  Big bags can be found at the warehouse stores and one bag can last a long time,   Soda is a good cleaner.    Salt never goes bad.   
• You can hard boil eggs in the oven .  Good snacks and lunch ideas.   You can also dehydrate eggs or make custard.   Breakfast for dinner is a good cheap dinner to stretch a buck.   
• Freezing bananas or berries for smoothies is good.   Otherwise, just buying fruit for smoothies can get really expensive.   You are better off eating the fruit.   A nutritionist told me when the children were little that an apple was a lot better to give them than apple juice.   Apple juice has too much sugar and especially in tippy cups can ruin their teeth,   
• Broccoli stems can become cream of broccoli soup or can be choooed in little pieces in a cream based chicken casserole  or chicken noodles.    
• Grated cheese can be frozen.   You can grate block cheese and freeze with a little cornstarch .  Shake the bag.   
• Grapes can be frozen for a treat. 
• You can freeze milk 
• I use sour cream in place of yogurt in some recipes.    
• Spaghetti can be used in a stir fry,   Stir fry is a good way to use up bits of vegetables and meat.   
• Top ramen lasts forever and can be used in soups and Stir fry sand lasts forever.    Ditch the seasoning packet.   If you must use it, use one in a very large soup pot.   
• Chicken bones make stock.  Chicken stock can be as much as two dollars a box.   Why throw out your bones and skin and buy someone else's,   Throw the bones in a lot of water or a slow cooker and add some herbs.  Simmer until the meat can fall off the bone. Strain and hold in the fridge for a few hours,   The fat will come to the top and it will be easy to spoon off.   Freeze if you aren't going to use soon.   Pick the chicken off the bones.    
• Leftover  cooked chicken can be sandwich filling or you can stuff a tomato or pepper peels a  with it.   
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Meal plans for week of February 13

Note : we use a matrix for meal planning based on protein.  1 fish or seafood, 1 beef, 3 chicken  or Pork and 2 vegetarian .  

1. Chicken enchaladas , rice, broccoli 
2. Pizza 
3. Cottage pie, fruit cup 
4. Pork chops over dressing with apples and cranberries. 
5. Chicken noodle cassarole , mixed veggies 
6. Salmon patties , honey fingered carrots, salad 
7. Breakfast 4 Dinner.

Notes 

1. Chicken from the rib bones , tortillas 12/1 at DT. Sour cream white sauce. 
2. Pizza - homemade crust 
3. Cottage pie -pre cooked hamburger, 🥕 carrot, peas, gravy, mashed potatoes 
4. Fry pork chops( brown)  makemdressing, add chopped carrots and cranberries.
5. Chicken noodle cassarole, ( cooked chicken breast ) mixed veggies frozen, noodles, white sauce mix 
6. Salmon patties, carrot rounds with honey,butter, and  ginger.   Salad 
7. Eggs.   Waffles - eggs were .56 a dozen and waffle mix was a dollar at GO.   

Ground beef and salmon are more expensive; eggs and chicken, pork chops are all 1.50 a pound or less. Averaging keeps the total within budget.    Scratch cooking and finding the cheapest possible price (RBP) keeps the total spent down,   

Fred Meyers ad for tomorrow

Blueberries, raspberries 3.49
Heritage farm chicken breast are Tyson,   1.69 --draper valley is 1.49 at QFC . You do have to de-bone them.  Easy and not to time consuming,  

Kroger tomatoes and veggies 2/1 @@ limit 8 - good stock up price


Oranges .99
Cilantro, parsley 2/.99

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Ten things to do with potatoes.

Friday's can be bucket days,    I'm working in antheme based site.   Please feel free to comment on any ideas you would like to see.  

Yesterday. Was a roll with the lunches day,   I had my first computer generated crown set.   A lot of stiff in your mouth.   Fortunately, they do things in stages so you can rest your what technology jaw in between.   I had waited as long as I could , more of my tooth disintegrated while the dentist was working on it.    Very interesting where  technology is taking us.

I had made brats in the pressure cooker with  a tomato and peppers  base.  We didn't like the peppers that way. It made them pasty feeling.  To salvage five dollars worth of peppers. I put the sauce back in the pressure cooker   last night, added a jar of pasta sauce and a package of extra fiber soeghetti.   Cooked it for five minutes,   Meantime, I sliced the brats in coins and fried them.   It came out very good.   I was surprised and hoping the pasta wouldn't be over cooked. It was just right.  

I still have enough to make something else out of the meat.  
I got ten pounds of potatoes for two dollars at Fred Meyers last week.  I still had a few potatoes left.  
I digress. Ten things to do with potatoes.  

• Baked potato bar.    Bake potatoes. Serve with anything that you can stuff  a potato with-- sour cream, broccoli, chilli, cheese, bacon, diced cooked chicken. Anything you can think of.    
• Potato soup 
• Clam chowder 
• Scalloped potatoes with ham ( or sausage coins. ) 
• Mashed potatoes 
• Oven roasted root veggies : potatoes, carrots, radishes, turnips, rutabagas ... cut in sizes that will roast evenly, toss with olive oil and salt and pepper. . . And bake at 400 until done.  Or, you can bakelonger if you have something else in the oven like chicken at 375. 
• french fries 
• Chilli fries
• Lefsa 
• Potato dumplings 
• Boiled potatoes 
• Potato rolls 
• Potato pancakes 
• Lemon potatoes 

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Special grocery haul

Yesterday, we mad a quick grocery haul.  

Split chicken.  breasts were 1.50 at QFC.  They were Washington grown, but Draper Valley.  I was not  impressed with the cleanliness or the way it was cut.   It was about .75 cheaper than Foster farms, but , in my opinion Foster Farms is a lot better quality.    I did manage tomde-bone them and cook the bones for stock and pieces.  

I also got berries for two dollars and butter for  2.50.  

After already shopping at Winco and Fred Meyers, I didn't need much, but didn't want to pass up the butter  and chicken,  

Yesterday, I made brats and peppers in the insta pot.  I wouldn't do it again.   It was fast as far as throwing ingredients in the pot.   I didn't like the texture of the brats.   I thought no I will chop them small and add them to pasta sauce.   Meat in the pressure cooker is  more boiled than fried.   There is a sauté function.   Frozen chicken to use in chicken recipes is wonderful.   You can fry hamburger and make chillI.  

We are stocked to the point where I will need fruit and veggies in a week or so, but probably,nit much more.    We are dwindling our diced tomatoes, but can wait for a good sale.   It's a good place to be, especially when it's snow season.   To the rest of the country, Seattle is built on hills.   We are six blocks from the ocean,    To go anywhere, you have to go up steep hills. Some years we have no snow at all, we are not as prepared as say, those in Minnesota.   LOL.  

Wednesday

rotation meat 🍖 deal of the week is the whole chickens  at QFC, or the split chicken breast priced  at

1.50 a pound, 

This week is,nitnthenwek for looking for great bargains,   Usually, they sockv it to you when it is a holiday week,   The exception was the dollar veggie sale at Fred Meyers,   One thing I have observed is that you can think you know where the best price on something is, but prices change with the times,   I have been getting 160 count tissue firma dikkarmat fred Meyers,  I am rarely finding the 200 count packages at the DT. 

Last week I had to buy roses for an event,   They were ten dollars a dozen,    QFC s special price on roses is twenty dollars.   

The kroger sausage is 2.99 at QFC, it's 2/5 at Fred Meyers with their in ad coupon,    

Safeways has basket coupons , but they aren't enough to make it worth your while considering the retail prices to begin with.  Since the whole merger, non - merger, sell off of Safeways and Albertsons, the prices have  taken a hike a lot of the time.   It was especially bad when we had Kroger or haggen as our alternatives besides specialty stores. It helped a lot when Winco finally got open on the old haggen building.    Competition helps.  Fred Meyer started having some deals. Freddies os cheaper on some classifications of food and  more on others.  It pays to know who has the best prices on any particular item and to stock  as much as is practical .  

My mother used to say that some people woukdnt know a bargain of it got up  and bit them in the butt.  Don't be that person. It pays to consciously buy as many items of a good sale as you can comfortably use before they "expire" .  Rotating what you buy as opposed to buying the same amount saves a lot of money,    The goal is to pay half price or less.   You can do that by: 

• Buying in bulk anything that is practical to buy in  bulk,   ( non perishables) 
• Looking for coupons on real food.
• Using a web site like ibotta.   
• Going to at least two stores .   That gives you the best of two stores.   Picking up certain things from the DT or a warehouse club   on a limited basis in bulk helps too. 
• And the biggest one.....never pay full price for anything.    Know prices of the things  you use on a regular basis and buy enough when they are at their lowest to last until they are low again.   

There are two kinds of people in the world.  The one that gets a can to tomatoes for 50  instead of 1.58 and buys three instead of one so they have enough for another meal. Then, there is the person that he saved  a buck so he can have pop and chips.  Having the pop andmchios gets you oknwith junk food and gives you oermission to do it again next week.   Buying the extra tomatoes means you basically eat for free two more times.     

 It's all in the attitude.    It's a mind set,    

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Oranges .99
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By popular request

very quick slow cooker vegetable soup.


This is a dump soup ,

My regular soup first,   Last night I asjusted to a bit.

• 2 cans diced tomatoes 🍅, not drained. 
• 2 cans ( 4 cups ) beans - i usually use two different kinds, or you can use cooked  beans. 
• 4 cups vegetable broth 
• 1 cup sautéed  vegetables : celery and carrots, sliced 
• 1-1/2 tbls italian seasoning 
• 1 tsp chopped garlic 

Dump in slow cooker and  cook on low 6-8 hours.   

Yesterday. I needed to use up potatoes.   

• 2 cans diced tomatoes 
• 4-6 potatoes, peeled and diced 
• 1 can green beans 
• 1 can corn 
• 3 carrots, sliced 
• 4 cups vegetable broth 
• 1-1-2 T Italian seasoning 

Dump in slow cooker and cook on high for an hour and low for Six to seven.   

Bread 

2 T dry yeast
2 T salt
4 cups warm (105-110 degrees) water
8 cups flour

Place  water, yeast, flour and then salt in a large container or bowl with a lid and plenty of head room.  
Stir until combined .   Let sit on counter for at least two hours,   Dough will expand, do not cover tightly.

You can refrigerate up to two weeks. When ready to cook. Cut or pay much off a large hunk of dough
Dough will be sticky, use floured board and hands.   Shape into a loaf or round.    Set on on a piece of parchment paper or a board with some cornmeal under it .   Let rise  for about 40 minutes.  

Place loaf on a Dutch oven and bake, covered for 35 minutes at 450 degrees . Carefully take the lid off and Reece the heat to 35 for another 10 minutes or later nit, the bread is done when it sounds hollow when tapped, top and bottom.

You can also put it on a pizza stone, or a upside down cookie sheet and bake it off at 450 degrees.

You can also make pizza dough from this I hear, I haven't done it.  


I have added herbs to the dough or chopped  parmesean cheese and parsley.   Rosemary would be good too.  I make a bread that has parmesean and cracked peppercorns,